# Oldest to complete Triple Crown - How to determine?

evmo
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This question emerged recently over beers & burritos with @VanMou and @AquaRob: How do we determine the oldest person to complete the Triple Crown of Open Water Swimming?

If Joe or Jane Q. Swimmer completes the E.C., C.C., and MIMS at ages X, Y, and Z, is his/her "Triple Crown age":

If Joe or Jane Q. Swimmer completes the E.C., C.C., and MIMS at ages X, Y, and Z, is his/her "Triple Crown age":

- The maximum of {X, Y, Z} ?
- The minimum of {X, Y, Z} ?
- The average of {X, Y, Z} ?

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I don't like using the average. You shouldn't have to whip out your calculator to find out if you've achieved a record in an adventure sport.

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completethe Triple Crown.Otherwise it'd have to be the age at which all three were completed

.... but only if the EC is the last of the 3; otherwise, CC - 5years; MIMS - 10 years.

unless all 3 completed in 1 season; + 20 yrs (at least!)

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I think the point of the question is that there are different ways of measuring the achievement, and each are interesting in their own way.

Imagine Person A, who completed the three swims at ages 56, 57, and 58.

Now imagine Person B, who completed the three swims at ages 25, 26, and 59.

By @suziedods' preferred method of measuring Triple Crown "age," Person B is "older."

But someone else might reasonably say that Person A was older, given that the average (or median, or minimum) age was much higher.

Just some food for thought.

That said it average age, or aggregate age would be an interesting stat to track. Either of these two ways of measurement would yield the same rankings since the average age is the aggregate age divided by 3. Average age might be more understandable than aggrevate age.

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Seems to be listed in order of age at completion of all three swims, which makes me 5th oldest...if you list by aggregate age, I'm the third oldest - so I guess I prefer by age at the last swim, 'cause I feel young, again!

So if person A swam the three at 28, 30, and 73, s/he would be considered to have completed the three at age 28?

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But so what if it was done by your example. Complete swim 1 and 2 again, and the age jumps to 73.

On the other side, Youngest may not be a record to be pursued too hard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquatots.

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@emkhowley, are you accounting for Leap Years?

Ok, Just as we have oldest men, oldest women, oldest cumulative relay age, . . . Have oldest completion and a greatest average age. Maybe most years from first to last. All in fun! And since swims are sent in with documentation, there is a space for "significant features" or similar term, so put something out there! A quirky idea may catch on. Whatever gets people going, right? :-D (So speaks the Wise Old Woman of Lake George.)

It would be enough of a miracle if I were to complete ONE of the triple crown swims, let alone all 3. If an even greater miracle occured and I were to complete a triple crown, I'd leave the math to others. I was an English major for a reason.

Still, maybe I should work on this problem. My coach, who has an engineering degree recently threw out math problems for us to solve during 100 repeats. I actually got tone correct!