Rio Olympics 10km open water swim

To save folks having to wade through the insane websites of rio2016.com and nbcolympics.com, I thought I'd post some basic facts about the upcoming Rio open water swimming events.

Date/Time. The women's event is Monday, August 15 at 9:00am Rio time (5am Pacific, 8am Eastern, noon GMT). The men's event is Tuesday, August 16, also at 9:00 am Rio time.

TV/streaming. In the US, NBC will be streaming the women's event HERE, and the men's event HERE. Not sure about TV coverage in other countries - perhaps others can chime in.

Course. Four loops of 2.5km on Copacabana Beach.

Participants

Men

USA WILIMOVSKY Jordan
NED WEERTMAN Ferry
GRE GIANNIOTIS Spyridon
USA RYAN Sean
GBR BURNELL Jack Rex David
FRA OLIVIER Marc-Antoine Daniel Frede
ITA RUFFINI Simone
CAN WEINBERGER Richard
BRA DO CARMO Allan
ITA VANELLI Federico
CHN ZU Lijun
GER REICHERT Christian
ECU ENDERICA OCHOA Ivan
RUS DRATTCEV Evgenii
TUN MELLOULI Oussama
SVK NAGY Richard
AUS POORT Jarrod
JPN HIRAI Yasunari
RSA HO Chad
BUL AYDARSKI Ventsislav
HUN PAPP Mark
VEN MALDONADO Erwin
NZL RADFORD Kane Rae Francis
KAZ KHUDYAKOV Vitaliy
EGY ELAMRAWY Marwan Ahmed Aly Morsy

Women

FRA MULLER Aurelie
NED VAN ROUWENDAAL Sharon
BRA CUNHA Ana Marcela
ITA BRUNI Rachele
BRA OKIMOTO Poliana
GER HARLE Isabelle
GRE ARAOUZOU Kalliopi
USA ANDERSON Haley
HUN RISZTOV Eva
HUN OLASZ Anna
CHN XIN Xin
GBR PAYNE Keri-Anne
ECU AREVALO Samantha
AUS GUBECKA Chelsea
JPN KIDA Yumi
RSA WEBER Michelle
POL ZACHOSZCZ Joanna
VEN PEREZ Paola
SLO PERSE Spela
CZE PECHANOVA Jana
ESP VILLAECIJA Erika
CAN HORNER Stephanie
POR NEVES Vania 
MAS GAN Heidi
EGY KASEEM Reem Mohamed Hussein Elsayed
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Comments

  • DanSimonelliDanSimonelli San Diego CASenior Member

    This is great!
    Thanks Evan
    \m/

    I do hate wading through the mass... @-)

  • smithsmith Huntsville, AlabamaSenior Member

    Despite some chatter months ago that wetsuits might be an option due to cold temperatures, water temps appear to be near perfect at 70 F. Really hope this is contested in rough chop. It would be a great departure from Beijing & London.

    pavlicovtimsroot

    Keep moving forward.

  • tortugatortuga Senior Member

    What's the weather forecast?

  • flystormsflystorms Memphis, TNSenior Member

    Ohh thanks! Just set the DVR.

  • JenAJenA Charter Member

    @tortuga said: What's the weather forecast?

    Well, not so much a forecast, but in weather-related news...

    http://www.smh.com.au/sport/olympics/rio-2016/olympics-swimming/olympic-open-water-swimming-platform-sinks-at-rio-20160813-gqrzda.html

    Olympic open water swimming platform sinks at Rio

    Rio de Janeiro: Practice for the open water swimming competition at Fort Copacabana off Copacabana Beach in Rio has been cancelled after the starting platform sank.

    The platform was wrecked on Saturday because of weather conditions, two days before the 10-kilometre women's race.

    According to Mario Andrada, spokesman for Rio 2016, it broke into three pieces and was swept away.

    tortuga
  • IronMikeIronMike Northern VirginiaCharter Member

    @evmo, can you add "Spoiler Alert" to the title of this thread? Or perhaps start a second thread that says it so those of you in a better time zone to watch it can discuss the results and those of us watching it delayed can avoid the thread?

    We're all just carbon, water, starlight, oxygen and dreams

  • dpm50dpm50 PA, U.S.Senior Member

    Is there any video footage that doesn't have a paywall?

  • andissandiss Senior Member
    edited August 2016

    Aurélie Mulle DQ'd - looks like an honest mistake and no advantage gained.....

    Jaimie
  • tortugatortuga Senior Member

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  • tortugatortuga Senior Member

    These are qualifying swims. My bad. But still excellent to watch

  • No around 0.25 Aurélie Muller goes to the left and pushes Rachele Bruni away with the result that Rachele swims into the white buoy and ends as 3rd.

    No, Muller is the one pushed into the white buoy by Bruni (which seems regular to me). She is DQ because she swims over Bruni to avoid the white buoy (which I find severe at the very least).

  • IronMikeIronMike Northern VirginiaCharter Member

    I don't think that white buoy should have been there. The long thin red buoy should have directed them straight to the chute, with the white fat buoy outside the thin red one.

    We're all just carbon, water, starlight, oxygen and dreams

  • tortugatortuga Senior Member

    Did anyone get sick from swimming at Rio? There was SO much speculation, I wnated to know the results.

  • wendyv34wendyv34 Vashon, WASenior Member

    I was wondering the same thing. I think I read somewhere that a couple of pool swimmers had gotten sick, but there weren't any details as to why.

    tortuga

    It's always a bad hair day when you work at a pool.

  • brunobruno Barcelona (Spain)Senior Member

    IronMike said:
    I don't think that white buoy should have been there. The long thin red buoy should have directed them straight to the chute, with the white fat buoy outside the thin red one.

    Agree. The finish assembly is poorly designed.

    On a side note, I don't understand how comes that they still have to slap a beam risen 50 cm. We are in 2016!

    Neither do I understand why they are not using underwater drones to make the broadcast more interesting (and this could help the referees as well).

  • j9swimj9swim CharlestonSenior Member

    bruno said: On a side note, I don't understand how comes that they still have to slap a beam risen 50 cm. We are in 2016!

    perhaps they could use the same timing mechanism that RTS uses - a timing chip in the cap, 1st chip across wins...seems simple, effective and fair - especially to those with shorter arms :)

  • brunobruno Barcelona (Spain)Senior Member

    perhaps they could use the same timing mechanism that RTS uses - a timing chip in the cap, 1st chip across wins...seems simple, effective and fair - especially to those with shorter arms :)

    I was thinking about something like this. No need to be in the cap, though: wrists, shoulders, hip... As long as it's clearly stated which part of the anatomy counts for crossing the line. Then competitors could focus on just swimming. That's how any other sport works (as far as I'm aware).

    j9swim
  • j9swimj9swim CharlestonSenior Member

    @niek
    1) the rules could make them wear caps
    2)the chip would be in the front, where their heads first break the plane of the finish line. The chips are attached to the cap already. Think I this like starting blocks in a track and field event. Equipment you must use.
    3) there is no need to lift your head with the current technology
    4) the comment about the shorter arms was a joke...I have very short arms :)

    The current process and technology is inadequate and creates behavior like we saw. I think exploring other options is good.

  • timsroottimsroot Spring, TXCharter Member

    bruno said:

    As long as it's clearly stated which part of the anatomy counts for crossing the line. Then competitors could focus on just swimming. That's how any other sport works (as far as I'm aware).

    Every sport has unique finishing rules that require special attention of some sort, even pool swimming. Cross country skiers have to get their ski across first. Running, it's the trunk that has to break the plane of the finish, not the hands or head.

    For races like that, I'd rather it be some sort of touchpad than a potentially murky and more difficult thing to judge like first to get their head across an invisible line. What happens if someone is submerged at the finish for some reason? If you used timing chips, how do you know everyone placed then perfectly, and the finish line equipment has sufficient resolution to differentiate finishing position? Would you rather swimmers run up on the beach and finish on dry land?

    The current solution seems to be the least worst in my opinion, if my opinion is worth anything.

  • MunatonesMunatones Charter Member

    Time does not determine the podium positions in FINA or Olympic races. If there is a question related to the final position (i.e., official placing), the positions are determined by a video review by the officials. That is, the person who first touches the touch panel is designated as the winner. Reviews (i.e., replays) are taken from 3 different high-speed cameras, one of which should be on stable dryland or fixed pontoon, and two of which are on the right and left sides of the finish pontoon.

    For as long as I can remember, in the United States, Japan, Mexico, Brazil, South Africa, China, Canada and many other countries around the world*, this same determination of the podium positions is based on the eyes and judgment calls or video reviews of officials standing at the finish line. In short distance amateur open water swims in the United States where high-speed cameras are not available, the commonly used determination of winners has always been the eyes and judgment of officials standing at the finish line for generations.

    From a former FINA official, member of the FINA Technical Open Water Swimming Committee, and organizer of USA Swimming national open water championship and Pan Pacific Championship events

    • this may not be true in all countries around the world so veteran open water swimming officials in those countries know well the formal determination of podium finishers
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    Huntington Beach, California, U.S.A.

  • SoloSolo B.C. CanadaSenior Member
    edited August 2016

    Munatones said:
    Time does not determine the podium positions in FINA or Olympic races. ...
    From a former FINA official, member of the FINA Technical Open Water Swimming Committee, and organizer of USA Swimming national open water championship and Pan Pacific Championship events

    Welcome back!

    AnthonyMcCarley
  • IronMikeIronMike Northern VirginiaCharter Member

    Steve @Munatones, is there policy for how the finish buoys should be aligned? The way the women's finish was set up still bugs me.

    Oh, and welcome back!

    Solo

    We're all just carbon, water, starlight, oxygen and dreams

  • danswimsdanswims Portland, ORMember
    edited August 2016

    IronMike said:
    Steve @Munatones, is there policy for how the finish buoys should be aligned? The way the women's finish was set up still bugs me.

    Fina rules
    OWS 5.9 The final approach to the finish shall be clearly defined with markers of a distinctive colour, and shall comprise the boundary of the course.
    OWS 7.1 The area leading to the finish apparatus should be clearly marked by rows of buoys which narrow as they get closer to the finish wall. Escort safety craft should be stationed at the approach to and entrance of the finish lane to ensure that only the escort safety craft authorized to do so enter or cross this entrance.

    IronMike
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